This is the final episode in a miniseries featuring entrepreneurs who have created phenomenal programs, and the lessons they’ve learned.
Today you’ll hear why one of these entrepreneurs needed to bring her farmer self to her program, why a solo mom realized she needed to create a different program, why one psychologist finds her coaching program liberating, and why collaboration is so so important.
I’m so glad you’ve been with me on this series.
This is part 5 in a podcast mini series featuring rebellious entrepreneurs.
This is a treat. I’ve roped these four wonderful entrepreneurs into showing up and sharing their stories with you. You’re about to hear about the programs beyond private practice they’ve each created, and one lesson each person learned in the process of creating and marketing their program.
These lessons cover everything from mindset to marketing strategy.
This week on the podcast, we're hearing from four entrepreneurs who have created phenomenal programs beyond private practice. This is part four in a pod mini series featuring cameo appearances (or a-hear-ances?) from folks who have been through Rebel Therapist programs this year. You’ll hear what they created and the biggest lesson they each learned in the process.
Here's part three in a series within Rebel Therapist Podcast sharing the voices of people who have been through Rebel Therapist programs recently. They have created some phenomenal offerings.
I want you to hear from them because
It will inspire you to realize you can create something amazing too.
You will get to hear a bit about what they learned in creating these programs and that will help normalize the process entrepreneurs go through.
You may fall in love with them. I know I have.
They're sharing all about the programs they've created and the lessons they've learned so far in leveling up beyond private practice.
This is part 2 in a series sharing the voices of people who have been through Rebel Therapist programs recently. They have created some phenomenal offerings.
I want you to hear from them because
It will inspire you to realize you can create something amazing too.
You will get to hear a bit about what they learned in creating these programs and that will help normalize the process entrepreneurs go through.
You may fall in love with them. I know I have.
So for this series, you’ll be hearing from these incredible folks.
Show Notes:
I briefly mentioned some really incredible entrepreneurs in episode 164: The Best Niches Beyond Private Practice. My friend Podge listened and then said something like: Are we going to have a chance to hear more about all of these people? I want to hire ALL of them!
That is a fantastic idea. Even better, I want you to get to hear FROM a lot of these people.
This is a series sharing the voices of people who have been through Rebel Therapist programs recently. They have created some phenomenal programs.
I’ve craved this sabbatical for years. My sister is a public school teacher and sometimes she takes several weeks off during the summer.
I’ve always envied her weeks off. As my sister went on long road trips with her family or just slowed down at home, I’d find myself thinking…”must be nice.”
Then immediately I’d feel ashamed about my envy.
Bari Tessler, M.A., is a Financial Therapist and the Founder of The Art of Money, a year-long money school. She’s a pioneer in the Financial Therapy field and the Author of The Art of Money: A Life-Changing Guide to Financial Happiness.
In this episode, she shares the journey she’s been through with the marketing of this course over the last two years, including some really tough moments. You’ll hear about the financial decisions, the marketing strategy, and the emotional side of this journey.
So let’s say you’ve created a wonderful signature program, and people sign up. Fabulous!
Then someone asks for a refund.
😕
What should you do?
That’s the question I answer in this week’s episode.
I walk you through how to get through the initial moment, then to make a decision, create a solid refund policy moving forward, and finally to make moves that will help you have less refund requests and more happy participants.
Lots of my clients are afraid to do webinars. Like I can’t think about anything else, I just want to cancel it kind of afraid. Like I’m convinced I will make a total fool of myself kind of afraid. Like can I just get under the covers instead kind of afraid. Like sweaty-as-hell-armpits kind of afraid.
I used to be afraid to do webinars too. In this episode I talk about why it might be worth it to move through that fear, and I share 23 ways to make webinars go better for you and your attendees.
The short answer to the question “Do I have to do a webinar?” is, of course, no. You are the boss of you.
Meet Silvana Espinoza Lau.
She’s a psychotherapist, consultant, and embodied liberation educator dedicated to supporting other mental health practitioners in their journeys of decolonization and liberation. Through Decolonize Your Practice, she helps fellow colleagues decolonize their practices in a wholesome and embodied way so that they can serve their clients in a practice centered on anti-oppression, liberation, and decolonization.
What should I charge the very first time I offer my program beyond private practice?
Um, actually I get this question pretty much EVERY week. It’s one of the most common questions I hear and it’s one of my favorites to dig into.
I’m talking about pricing an offer beyond your therapy sessions...something like a workshop, coaching program, retreat or course.
Introducing Miranda Palmer and Kelly Higdon, the founders of ZynnyMe. They are two licensed therapists coming together to empower private practice owners to serve at their highest and best, improve clinical outcomes through business planning, and to break the statistic that mental health clinicians are the worst paid Masters’ degree.
In this conversation, they let me get extremely nosy about how things work behind the scenes with their very successful and popular flagship offer.
Meet Rae McDaniel: A non-binary gender and sex therapist-turned-coach who works with transgender/non-binary/questioning folks feeling lost while transitioning their gender identity. They are the creator of GenderFck: The Club, a one-of-a-kind, research-based online group coaching community of transgender/non-binary/questioning folks who are on a mission to transition with less suffering and more ease. Rae is the founder of Practical Audacity, a gender and sex therapy practice in Chicago. They also provide training for medical and mental health professionals wishing to uplevel their knowledge in trans-affirming care. Rae holds a Master's of Education in community counseling.
Ask Annie: Why is my email list growing SO slowly? 🐢
To answer this we need to address why email marketing is SO important:
“your money is in your list.” A phrase every person in online marketing will tell you (even the smart and ethical ones 😬) Email marketing is VERY likely to be a core tool to growing your business beyond private practice.
(If you’ve got a traditional private practice and that’s it, you don’t need an email list. )
I invited my pal Jeff Guenther back on Rebel Therapist because I've noticed 2 things he does brilliantly well in his marketing. Not only is he great at marketing, but he's also really honest and willing to give you zero BS as he explains what he does and why.
I expect you to listen to everything he's sharing here and borrow the parts that might work for you in marketing your incredible and unique business.
Just so I don't bury the best part, due to how Jeff has been using TikTok, his company Therapy Den has had a 50% increase in therapy referrals. That's absurdly high.
Looking over some of my 2021 Reflections
Expense creep vs. thoughtful spending and being in a position to be more generous.
Embracing being the breadwinner
Letting go of judgement around making a greater amount of money than my partner.
Knowing that I am making ethical choices with my money, that my clients are making ethical choices, including that we're not trying to pay others as little as possible.
I appreciate Kelly Diels and Rachel Rodgers for their influences on my thinking about money this year.
Listen to how my guest is zigging when others are zagging. This is a business owner who is growing a unique and profitable business by doing things her way, thoughtfully. She speaks to a particular audience and has no desire to appeal to everyone. She's building her thought leadership, and she's not doing it on social media.
I want you to listen to how she does her marketing and then think about how you could borrow some of her ideas and make them your own.
Podge Thomas is a business coach and management specialist. She works with women business owners to help hire and grow strong teams in order to find financial, systemic and structural sustainability.
