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Show Notes:
This week I'm talking to Lindsay Bryan-Podvin, a biracial financial therapist, speaker, and author. In her clinical practice, she helps people get their mind and money in balance. She's also expanded her services to help private practice therapists grow sustainable practices from the inside out.
Last time Lindsay was on Rebel Therapist Podcast was almost exactly a year ago. Check out Lindsay's episode on December 3rd, 2019 about creating and launching her first scaled offer. It's a popular and valuable episode! Here it is. https://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/113
I was just a guest on Lindsay's podcast, Mind Money balance, and we started talking about how we've both made changes to our business practices this year.
The 2020 uprising has helped just about everybody take another look at our values around anti-oppression and liberation, to do a deep inquiry, and to root out any practices that don't align with the kind of impact we want to have. It's also an opportunity to add in practices that move us and our clients towards liberation.
For both Lindsay and I, these weren't NEW questions or new values. It was more like a punctuation mark in our journeys to be anti-oppressive in our businesses.
You're going to hear an honest back and forth in this episode about some of the changes we've both made in our businesses and why we've made them.
Lindsay shares what she's changed in her marketing, sales, and in delivering her offers, and how these changes have impacted her bottom line and her emotional life.
Here's some of what we talked about:
What decolonizing her business means to Lindsay
Increasing transparency and honesty in all aspects of her business
Changing her sales copy
Leaving all traces of "bro marketing" behind
Going against the common advice by having 2 niches
Why we both dislike false scarcity and (some) countdown timers
The fear she felt when she opened up about her past mistakes
The liberation she's experiencing in her business
Some resources and professionals Annie is learning from in 2020:
This is not an exhaustive list, but it includes professionals I've either worked with directly or through their podcasts or other work. I contribute to their Patreons or other platforms if I don't work with them and pay them for that work directly. (Thanks to Sonya Renee Taylor and others for helping me move towards right relationship in that way!)
If you're white or experience white skin privilege, check out the Free Joy Experience which she co-founded with EbonyJanice Moore. Everyone, check out The Blacker The Brain Campaign and her podcast, Shaping The Shift.
Co-founder of The Free Joy Experience with Thea Monyee and founder of The Free People Project and many other things.
Pause On The Play Community and podcast with Erica Cordae and India Jackson
The Pause on the Play Community is a safe space for leaders to collaborate to support diversity, equity + inclusion with intention.
Author, leader, activist.
That's Not How That Works Podcast with Louiza Doran and Trudi Lebron
Two JEDI (Justice, Equity, Diversity & Inclusion) Masters talk about how those things show up or don't in personal and professional communities.
Some resources and professionals Lindsay is learning from in 2020:
From Lindsay: "These are not all specifically JEDI, but they all incorporate these values into their work."
Asians for Mental Health (Instagram Account and being on their Asian therapist directory)
Therapy Reimagined/Modern Therapist Survival
Meg Keene/Practical Business School
Jordan Maney/Love All The Days
Gieselle Allen